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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2006 7:28:01 GMT -5
Her Great Dane B*tch whelped 12 pups...all happy healthy bouncy babies. That was a week ago. She has lost every one of them to parvo. Please keep her and her family in your thoughts.
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Post by Kathy on Mar 28, 2006 8:17:49 GMT -5
I don't know her at all but no matter-that's so sad!  I didn't realize that the puppies could still get parvo if mama was vaccinated. I guess it must be like humans where the vaccines don't always 'take'. Or are Danes(I don't know much about them)more susceptible to certain doggie diseases? Sending positive energy and prayers her way; what a rough thing to have to go through. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2006 11:50:21 GMT -5
Ah, that's really crummy  What a heartbreaker. Bigs hugs being sent your way, TCA. /VM |
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Post by moongazer on Mar 28, 2006 13:13:36 GMT -5
She must have more than one female cause she announced a litter born about 6 to 8 weeks or so ago.
Kathy she is the lady whose son did the auction for her to get a cow.
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Post by juju on Mar 28, 2006 15:33:33 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the Great Dane. How sad. I don't know this woman at all. So this is just my take on the situation just from what has been stated from others. My guess is that this woman isn't vaccinating her animals or going to a vet ( puppy mill comes to mine ). Parvo can live as long as 9 months or longer in the ground if the conditions are right. Chlorine Bleach is about the only thing to kill it. This woman should NOT be breeding any animal right now. And she should be giving shots to those pups at 6 weeks besides worming them. "This is a very serious disease. Some puppies infected with parvovirus will die despite prompt and adequate treatment. While no extremely accurate statistics are available, a good guess is probably that 80% of puppies treated for parvovirus will live. Without treatment, probably 80% or more of the infected puppies would die. ""For some reason, Rottweilers, Doberman Pinschers, and other black and tan breeds are especially prone to Parvo, and seem to succumb to parvo faster and with less chance of recovery than any other breed. If you have one of these breeds, it's even more important to make certain your puppy or dog gets immunized properly. But these breeds are not alone -- the Parvovirus can affect all breeds. " "If you have had parvo in your home, use a strong bleach/water solution to kill it. Soak the yard with it -- better to kill the grass than your next dog! Be careful using it on carpets and fabrics, though. Parvo can live up to 6 months or so in your home or yard. Before you bring home another dog, be sure it has a strong immunity to parvo. You can have a veterinarian draw blood and run a titre to find out how well your prospective dog will fare in a parvo-infected environment. Adult dogs generally have a higher resistance than puppies do, but they need to be kept current on their vaccines. If in doubt, have your vet do the titre." "Parvo is highly contagious to unprotected dogs, and the virus can remain infectious in ground contaminated with fecal material for five months or more if conditions are favorable" "If you've recently lost a dog to Parvo, veterinarians recommend that you wait six months to a year before putting a new puppy or non-vaccinated dog in to an infected environment (even if you have disinfected it). To immediately bring an animal into a situation where one has recently died of Parvo is a virtual death sentence for the new puppy. Common sense and regular visits to the veterinarian can save your dog's life." For more info you can go here www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2&articleid=467or here www.workingdogs.com/parvofaq.htm |
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Post by starfire on Mar 28, 2006 18:25:27 GMT -5
That is so very sad. I feel mostly sorry for the mother of the puppies. Her heart must be breaking.
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Post by moongazer on Mar 28, 2006 19:11:32 GMT -5
I hope this doesn't offend anyone but I always wondered how she can afford Great Danes but not a cow. Forgive me if I sound to critical.
O misread the origional post. I was a week ago so may of been those same pups she announced on HT.
It is a shame.
She sure has her work cut out for her. Disinfecting, shots and more.
BTW I have heard that even if the mothers are vaccinated puppies should not be let out in soil even to play until they get their first 2 to 3 shots.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2006 21:50:39 GMT -5
The 2 bitches she has were rescues. One came bred and aborted the pups and had a case of mastitis. I think that one had to be spayed but not sure. This one was a purposeful breeding...and she did her homework.
Parvo can and often does, live for a year or more on ANY surface. Bleach solution DOES NOT kill parvo...you have to use a straight 5 % chlorine bleach...which also corrodes and puts off toxic fumes an dmust be left on the surface for 10 min or more. Lysol, Nolvasan and a couple of other things are the only things known to kill parvo pretty much on contact without the harmful side effects.
The pups weren't ready for vaccs yet. They were way too young.
Parvo can be brought into your home on your shoes, on your handbag, on ANYTHING. This can (and does) happen to anyone regardless of the precautions one takes.
No she's not a puppy mill.
And she got her cow.
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Post by moongazer on Mar 28, 2006 22:25:31 GMT -5
Yep, that's what I was saying, it's in the ground/dirt/soil
MY vet says if you can avoid puppies going out in the grass and ground till they have had 2 or 3 of their puppy shots even with the mother having shots it's best.
As to shoes and carrying it in, when I raised birds I use to have a pan of disinfect that all people coming in had to step in and stay a minute before entering.
Had to change it daily. (Not for parvo but for bird stuff.)
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Post by juju on Mar 29, 2006 2:27:38 GMT -5
The 2 bitches she has were rescues. One came bred and aborted the pups and had a case of mastitis. I think that one had to be spayed but not sure. This one was a purposeful breeding...and she did her homework. Parvo can and often does, live for a year or more on ANY surface. Bleach solution DOES NOT kill parvo...you have to use a straight 5 % chlorine bleach...which also corrodes and puts off toxic fumes an dmust be left on the surface for 10 min or more. Lysol, Nolvasan and a couple of other things are the only things known to kill parvo pretty much on contact without the harmful side effects. The pups weren't ready for vaccs yet. They were way too young. Parvo can be brought into your home on your shoes, on your handbag, on ANYTHING. This can (and does) happen to anyone regardless of the precautions one takes. No she's not a puppy mill. And she got her cow. Thank You for the clarification. I retrack my puppy mill thoughts. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2006 6:50:44 GMT -5
Moongazer - When I worked at the aviary, we did that too. However, with parvo, you can set your bookbag down on the pavement and pick it up. It's a NASTY disease all around. Rotovirus, which mimics parvo, is also bad but not as fatal.
Thank you Juju....
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